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um and yes

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it's a little bit of a provocative title

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but it becomes apparent what i mean by

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that later on it's uh just just

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obviously it literally means revelation

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um so i will i will explain exactly what

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i mean as we go through

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not nothing destructive um so basically

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the presentation is in two parts really

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the first three points on this slide are

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just referring to my own perk kind of

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personal experiences and some of the

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implications from those and then in the

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second part of the talk i just wanted to

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talk a little bit more about

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synchronicity which experience an awful

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lot of and whether we can kind of expand

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the concept a little bit um

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so so to begin with i'll just talk a

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little bit about

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how i got to where i am now

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um as chantal mentioned i i studied um

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natural sciences at cambridge university

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and then i went off to a phd in geology

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and after that i started working as a

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geologist for an oil company in cairo in

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in 2005 where i started to experience

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feelings of kind of paranoia and

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essentially a feeling that my calls and

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emails were being monitored and the way

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this kind of

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manifested itself was the idea that

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essentially if uh of conversations

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between office colleagues would you

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include unusual phrases that i'd maybe

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use in a different context during

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personal

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partner back in the uk it was this kind

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of feeling of being watched that slowly

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kind of started to develop and i came

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back to the uk in 2006 and i wondered

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whether it was just the environment that

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i was living in and as i'm working in

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and whether if i changed my my jobs my

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career or whatever then things would

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things would improve so i actually moved

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to a different a different company

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different organization but i still had

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that feeling that essentially somebody

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was trying to kind of direct my life

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from from behind the scenes

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so it got to 2008 i thought right well

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maybe i just i really need to kind of

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just change direction um and i started

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at this point to think well i tell you

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what i can do i can just have a clean

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break get in control of my own destiny

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and start my own small business in

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crystal palace which is an area of south

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east london i decided to open a small

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delicatessen shop

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but i still experience these kind of

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meaningful coincidences when people came

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into the shop the feeling that

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essentially

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i was being monitored and it was

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paranoia and by the time we got to july

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2008 this kind of ranging the range of

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coincidences and whatever it seemed to

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expand in my mind to include the media

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and the state and kind of from this

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point onwards i basically thought i was

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in a kind of a grand conspiracy and

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underlying all of that i still have this

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feeling that somebody was trying to

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connect can contact me for reasons

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unknown but by using an indirect means

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you know not just not being direct about

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it which was really frustrating and by

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the time we got to september this was

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the the time of the the bank bailouts

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during the the global financial crisis

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and and that kind of meant that the

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future for the business didn't look

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particularly good and yeah my personal

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situation wasn't fantastic either

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because i started to think that my house

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was bugged and people were listening to

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my mobile phone and you know that i was

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basically just playing a role in a

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highly elaborate theater movie script

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and it got to the stage where i'll be

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honest i was referred to mental health

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specialists in southeast london who

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prescribed antipsychotic medication

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which um i refused to take and the

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reason i refused to take it was because

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i could see all these these coincidences

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happening in the outside world they

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didn't feel as though they were going on

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in my head i wasn't hallucinating and i

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didn't think that altering my brain

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chemistry was going to was going to

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adjust what i could see in the outside

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um so this was a difficult period and i

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just want to focus on one particular

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moment in this in this period of autumn

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fall 2008. um so by this stage i i

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believe that i was in the in this kind

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of this this brand conspiracy and like

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into my head that essentially uh this

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business this shop on the opposite side

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of the road to where i was working was a

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front for this conspiracy this business

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had just opened up and i thought that

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they'd done it deliberately basically to

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come and get me um and i was very angry

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about this and i became i came very

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close to literally walking across the

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road with a room to smash up the shop

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because i thought that these people were

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against me and i was very very angry

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about this but something stopped me and

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i put the brew room down and i walked to

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the back of the shop and i switched on

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the tap to a sink that was in the back

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of the back of the shop and i was kind

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of in his state of quite you know kind

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of emotional intensity and i was

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watching that the water come out of this

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tap and as i was watching it it went

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from full flow down to a trickle and

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then back to full flow again over the

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space for a couple of seconds and i

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couldn't there was no logical reason why

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that happened there weren't any plumbers

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there they'd never done it before but

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one thing that it did do was it kind of

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took my mind off the situation as it was

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happening there during this kind of

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intense emotional period but i didn't

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really understand it at that point at

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so as i say you know 2008 was not good

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and by the time we got to early 2009 i

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actually ended up being sectioned in the

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bethlehem royal hospital and bethlehem

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is the oldest psychiatric hospital in

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commonly known as bedlam um and

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basically it was for refusing to take

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antipsychotic medication which is that i

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didn't want to take because i thought

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all these things were happening in the

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real world as it were

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but on the second day i was there um you

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know this was a new environment and the

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second day that i was there a new a new

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patient came in called john and he was

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quite a eccentric guy and he he talked

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at me and he said you know i'm god i'm

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god and he kept claiming that he was god

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um but the funny thing about him was

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that he seemed to be also very intuitive

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as if the kind of things i was seeing on

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the outside world

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were the same things that were happening

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here but only much more with much more

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intensity is that as though he kind of

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could somehow unconsciously understand

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aspects of my life it was a very very

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strange conversation very very intense

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um and it's so intense in fact that i

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actually found it quite stressful and i

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was struggling to get to sleep that

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so i was lying in my bed on that this

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this second night as it were and i was

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actually counting sheep to try and get

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to sleep and and the way i was doing

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that was i was imagining sheep jumping

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over the top of the tent i just had this

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mental image of sheep jumping over a

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tent it was just my way of counting

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these things um and then the next day

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there was a um a like basically a uh an

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art therapy session and one of the other

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about halfway through i've just thought

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of something really strange i thought of

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sheep jumping over a tent um which for

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me was a really shocking statement

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because up until that point i thought

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that people were reading my emails

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listening to my phone calls and it now

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seems as though they could read my mind

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absolutely shocking because you know

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considering where i'd come from and i i

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didn't you know i tried to kind of

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assimilate it i didn't mention it really

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to other people because i thought it

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wouldn't go down too well so um i just

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kind of kept it to myself um and then

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actually 12 days later i did i left the

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hospital because i wasn't seen as being

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but you know it started to dawn on me as

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i was leaving essentially the kind of

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the rules of reality that i've grown up

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with no longer really applied to what i

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was now witnessing and you know what i'd

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according to my original world view what

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i've been seeing um the only rational

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explanation for these things was that i

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was in some kind of grand conspiracy and

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i now started to think the penny started

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to drop that maybe these anomalous

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experiences were something that were

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some kind of spiritual communication

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that i'd misinterpreted and it was

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actually a couple of days after i came

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out of the hospital but i kind of

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chanced upon synchronicity almost

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through doing kind of google searches

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and whatever and i came across young and

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i started reading about all this stuff

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that i'd never really heard of before

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whatsoever and what i now understood as

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big synchronicities these coincidences

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actually started to lead me to

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go doubt the existence of free will and

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i started to accept the ideas of you

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know fate and super determinism but

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without fatalism you know just the the

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amount of patterning i was getting kind

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of led me in that direction so these

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were the kind of things i was thinking

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of at that time and then uh one other um

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particular incident i quickly quickly

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like to talk about also happened in

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spring 2009 this was shortly after i

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came out of this this hospital

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a number of people at that time were

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trying to contact me for kind of obvious

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reasons to kind of get in touch and

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whatever but i i was at a state where i

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wanted to

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spend time on my own to kind of work out

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what was going on and and i i had some

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quite angry conversations with people

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just saying just please just leave me

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alone i need space at the moment and one

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of these kind of conversations was was

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with with my mother and she called me

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when i was down in brighton which is a

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town on the south coast of britain and

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um so i said that yeah just just just

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leave me alone it was quite like i said

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quite an intense angry conversation but

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i just needed space and after i had this

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conversation i walked into a pub and i

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bought a pint of guinness this was the

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only part of guinness i bought i wasn't

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sitting there drinking all day but i i

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just you know i bought this planet

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i went outside and i sat down with it i

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put it on the table and when i put it on

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the table a shamrock just appeared in

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the head of this guinness it wasn't put

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there by the barman um it was absolutely

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perfect in form i would describe it as

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being almost like a platonic shamrock in

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that it it was it was perfect and it was

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made up of different sized bubbles so

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the bubbles right at the center of the

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pattern that were large and they

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finally graded out towards the edge of

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the shamrock and it was as i say

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absolutely perfect it's completely

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different to human created to shamrocks

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and i've never seen anything quite like

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it before or since to be honest with you

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um so it was quite

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quite a strange experience and the other

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thing that i started to notice in

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uh spring summer 2009 were muscle

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fasciculation so

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pulses basically in my in my muscles in

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different parts of my body it wasn't a

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spasm it wasn't in one place but they

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would happen all over the place and they

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would happen often at times of meaning

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and it got to the point where actually

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in 2019 i went to a neurologist just to

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check that my nervous system and muscles

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and everything are functioning correctly

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which they seem to be so

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there's not a problem there but these

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things do seem to happen at kind of

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times of meaning so for example

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well here's something from a record that

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i've been taking so i get a strong pulse

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in my right thigh when i say god an

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exasperation of something at 7 20 p.m on

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the 25th of june 2019

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16th of august 2019 i'm returning from a

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day trip to cambridge on the train uh

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this is just after 10 o'clock at night

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and i get a pulse in my left thigh at

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the same time as an audible creek in the

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trains that goes around a corner between

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two stations in east london

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first is september 2019 i'm reading a

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book and i get a pulse on my right

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tricep at the line religious people have

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apparent visitations

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uh 29th of december and watch a youtube

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video inside of project deep quest and

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uh just over 10 minutes into the video

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the thumb of my left hand basically kind

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of moves downwards and kind of comes

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back up a shot of a submarine hydraulic

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arm and the line i extended my

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articulated manipulator and dug it into

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the bottom and pulled out the first

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artifact and this is something else that

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i sometimes get it seems like my fingers

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sometimes have a kind of mind of their

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own as it as it works very strange um

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another book um so here

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yes during the line while the narrator

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stood in front of the cameras on the

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very premises of the young swiss home

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lightning struck the same garden where

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the tree had been formerly located

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followed by a dramatic roll of thunder

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and then another one here so

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psychology today an article there at the

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line this was orchestrated by something

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with wits i got a couple of pulses in my

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left tricep so i get these things quite

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a lot as if something's with me

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essentially and all these things are

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basically combined into this kind of

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flip of world view that's kind of

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gradually happened over the years from

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agnosticism to i suppose a spiritual

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career creator of everything sometimes

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with this kind of tricksterish peter pan

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character and i think you know basically

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responsible for our actions on both the

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kind of conscious and unconscious level

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while giving us this apparent sense of

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free will that's certainly where i where

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i sit on it and we're all a part of this

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entity and i would say

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it's it's for me for me it's more of a

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knowledge and a belief given some of my

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personal experiences but i'm aware that

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basically you know everyone has their

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own viewpoint and that's that's

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absolutely fine but i do think there are

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some implications that really need to

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come out as stuff like this

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and i will say quite strongly that the

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last 15 years have been quite difficult

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at times

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basically because i've been confronting

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a whole load of internal and external

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barriers as being

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a result of being immersed in this kind

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of dominant

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world view that we're all sat in

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and i do think you know extremely

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strongly that the western mental health

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community needs to be trained properly

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trained at people-centered psychotherapy

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psychoanalysis with a spiritual event

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alongside just prescribing antipsychotic

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medication as a kind of easy option

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because i think it would be quite

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straightforward if in 2008 somebody

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trained in kind of psychoanalysis that

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introduced me to the idea of

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psychotherapy synchronicity it would

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have explained an awful lot about the

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coincidence i'm experiencing and would

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have reduced those those feelings of

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paranoia early on so i really do think

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that there needs to be much more

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spirituality within the mainstream

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psychiatric profession and i know that

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there are inroads being made but it's

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still very much a kind of a a marginal

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thing and by the same token obviously i

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know it's difficult and i know this

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myself it's very difficult to talk about

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spiritual experiences uh and spiritual

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emergency emergencies um in the in the

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world view that we live in

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each journey is very much is very unique

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but there are you know commonalities

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between them and the more that we can

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talk about these things the better so

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this is the the apocalypse i'm talking

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about the unveiling of the occult the

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unveiling of the hidden that's what i

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have in mind i mean i just wonder

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you know whether their consistency of

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definition is helpful i mean for me this

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spiritual aspect is always kind of with

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me it has intelligence and i call it god

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because essentially

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most people understand what that is

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everyone on the street has an opinion

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one way or the other on this and it's a

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name that people undergoing a spiritual

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journey can understand maybe it's

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different for different people but it

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was certainly helpful for me

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um and with this kind of in mind one

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reason that i actually permanently

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changed my name in 2016 was to make it

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very clear where i stand and you know

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i'll be honest no i'm not suffering from

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solipsism grandiosity or an inflated ego

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you know as ramadas previously said you

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know richard alpert once wrote sure man

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you're christ and i'm christ too and i

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totally agree with that you know i i

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will say now i believe i'm god but

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everybody else is god as well you know

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we're all part of god the kingdom of

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heaven within etcetera etcetera um and i

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do think

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that in order to make people more aware

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of you know spiritual phenomena it is

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necessary to be kind of open proud and

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accessible very much as the kind of you

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know the gay community has gained your

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pride um so i i have no problem

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essentially calling myself god i make no

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apologies for that you know as long as

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it's you know obvious that i think

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everybody else is as well i think it's

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just necessary to be open on this

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i feel very strongly about all this

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because it's been a long journey

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but at the first part of the talk and i

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just wanted to kind of go on to

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something you know now i finished my my

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rant as it were onto something that is

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perhaps a little bit more interesting

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and it's the idea of of expanding the

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idea of synchronicity a little bit the

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the connection between the microcosm and

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the macrocosm

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and and maybe kind of bring enchantment

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back into the world a little bit because

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as umberto echo wrote you know the

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medievals inhabited the world filled

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with references reminders overtones of

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divinity and the manifestations of god

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in things or correspondence with the

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idea of the newest fear a global

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consciousness and i just wonder if if

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you know if we do this we might be able

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to kind of bring a little bit of

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enchantment back into the world through

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i don't know through a global

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synchronous project or

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utilizing a website or an app where

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essentially people can contribute their

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own connections to make people more

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aware of the connections between people

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and between events and nature to make us

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a lot less individualistic

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and the reason why i'm talking about

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connecting people with global events is

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because what those global events could

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do is act as a platform

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that lots of people could plug into

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everyone has their own

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synchronistic experiences everyone has a

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different objective aspect to those

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experiences but these are the sorry the

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subjective aspects of those experiences

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but these are the kind of the big the

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large-scale objective aspects that that

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we could look at so i just want to talk

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about two quick examples um this is

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something that happened to me at the

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start of may and it's very very much

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based in northwest europe i'm afraid but

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um it was a result of

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the uk leaving the european union last

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year basically there was a kind of a

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diplomatic fight early on in may

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about

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getting at the front fishing committee

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getting access to jersey's territorial

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waters now jersey is a small island that

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lies about 14 miles off the coast of

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france and it receives 95 of his

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electricity directly from france and

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basically france threatened to cut off

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the electricity supply to jersey unless

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um the uk granted more

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more access to the fishing fleet so

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that's the kind of the macrocosm as it

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were

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now how what why did i feel that i could

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be connected to this well essentially

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i happen to live in an area of west

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london earth's core which flies lies

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very close to south kensington with its

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kind of heavy french presence there's a

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lot of french people that live around

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here the french embassy is very nearby

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so that's one aspect the other part of

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this is that as most of us do you know

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we i pay an electricity bill but i

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really i really adjust how much i i pay

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um and so that's kind of my background

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but it just

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so happens that on the 3rd of may about

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8 o'clock in the morning i just kind of

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spontaneously decide that i want to

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increase the amount of money i'm paying

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to my electricity accounts and i do that

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for increasing my direct debit and an

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additional payment

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and my electricity supplier is a company

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called the edf energy which is

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electricity to france is an electricity

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a french electricity company that

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basically operates in the uk and i do

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this to make up a shortfall in my

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account and some recent electricity

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price increases so

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so i decided to do that and i get a

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confirmation confirmatory email from edf

550
00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:43,600
slightly later later on

551
00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,559
and then

552
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,480
completely separate to this i submit i

553
00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,480
also submit a job applications the role

554
00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:50,160
of science educator at the natural

555
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:51,760
history museum which is

556
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,840
located in you know french south

557
00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,840
kensington directly opposite the french

558
00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:58,160
embassy concert there so these are the

559
00:18:02,470 --> 00:17:59,840
kind of things i'm doing and then at 9

560
00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:02,480
30 that night on the 4th of may

561
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,000
this is when the first report appears

562
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,400
about about the the threat of france

563
00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:08,480
cutting off the electricity supply to

564
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,679
jersey

565
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:11,600
um i get another about an hour later i

566
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,520
get another email from edf confirming

567
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,440
confirming my payment and then the

568
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,600
following day this whole thing escalates

569
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:19,280
and uh it gets to the stage where boris

570
00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:20,640
johnson's thinking you think of sending

571
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:23,520
in the gun votes to defend jersey um

572
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:24,799
obviously this is a bit yeah it doesn't

573
00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:27,280
mean very much but in terms of a sign or

574
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:28,960
anything like that but i i felt like a

575
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,280
connection between what i was doing here

576
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:33,679
and what was happening you know over in

577
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,919
over in jersey so um you know that was

578
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:37,760
the the kind of the first experience

579
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:40,480
like one particular example of a kind of

580
00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:42,240
synchronicity that i that i was feeling

581
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:43,120
there

582
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:45,919
the second example um

583
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,480
is a little bit tragic as some you know

584
00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,360
some use events are now this young guy

585
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:53,600
uh is a nine-year-old boy called jordan

586
00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,880
banks unfortunately he died um in the

587
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:58,880
middle of may because he was struck by

588
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,280
lightning and he was struck by lightning

589
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,799
um during a football coaching session

590
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,240
he's described as an extraordinary young

591
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:06,000
man a superstar footballer and i hope to

592
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:07,200
end all of this on a bit more of a

593
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:09,039
positive note but i just want to give

594
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:10,400
you a bit of background to what was

595
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:13,280
going on um so this particular week also

596
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,640
happened to be

597
00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:16,720
um quite a tumultuous week in kind of

598
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:19,520
global events in that um on the monday

599
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,039
on the 10th of may rockets have been

600
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:23,120
fired by hamas from gaza into israel and

601
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,799
the israelis responded with airstrikes

602
00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:26,880
on gaza it was the first time since 2014

603
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:28,480
that that happened

604
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:29,440
um

605
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:30,400
and

606
00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:33,360
on a much smaller scale i actually that

607
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,039
same day i booked up to see michael

608
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:37,120
grosso present a talk entitled miracles

609
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:38,799
in the age of disbelief theory and

610
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:40,320
practice with the scientific and medical

611
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,760
network and my interest here is

612
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,960
obviously based on some of the

613
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:45,039
experiences i had in the past

614
00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,720
um and then the following day at uh 5 pm

615
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:50,640
was when this boy unfortunately died

616
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,720
after being struck by lightning um

617
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:54,400
during a football coaching session as

618
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,799
reported later on during the bbc website

619
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:58,960
on the bbc website but it also turned

620
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,280
out to be the same night or the

621
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:03,280
the biggest night in the english soccer

622
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,480
league in that manchester city won the

623
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:08,320
premier league title so it's it's

624
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,159
equivalent to the super bowl almost you

625
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,799
know it's that it's a very very pretty

626
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:14,240
soccer

627
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,200
um

628
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,760
i i buy a book of the of the miracles in

629
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:19,200
the age of disbelief on the following

630
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:22,080
day but then in the evening

631
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,919
i'm reading an update on this news

632
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:26,159
report and at this point this young boy

633
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:27,840
has been named as jordan banks and while

634
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:29,039
i'm reading this i get a couple of

635
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:30,640
pulses in my right triceps which always

636
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:32,240
means to me that i can't really kind of

637
00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:36,240
direct my attention and um

638
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,200
one of the things that was said in the

639
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:38,880
report was you know on average in the uk

640
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,480
two people are killed by lightning every

641
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,720
year but there's also a comment from a

642
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,880
meteorologist called simon king which is

643
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,400
kind of representative i think of some

644
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,679
of the kind of dismissive comments

645
00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:49,120
sometimes

646
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,640
you know as a result of the kind of the

647
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,400
paradigm that we live in which was

648
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:54,000
essentially to say well lightning isn't

649
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,360
uncommon especially during the spring

650
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,640
and summer months there are an estimated

651
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,320
3 000 lightning strikes across northern

652
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,480
england between 1600 bsd and midnight on

653
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,400
tuesday um

654
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:04,480
you know and i know this is a sensitive

655
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,159
subject and obviously you wouldn't talk

656
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:07,760
about this in a report but it's worth

657
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:11,600
thinking about here um you know that

658
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,360
what are the odds of a child footballer

659
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,880
called jordan banks of the football

660
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,960
coaching session being struck by

661
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,400
lightning on the same evening the

662
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:20,000
premier league winners were deciding on

663
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,000
the same week the conflict was happening

664
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:23,679
in israel on the banks of the river

665
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,720
jordan and you know and gaza now you can

666
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,320
say that i'm making connections between

667
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,240
things that are that are not warranted

668
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:32,000
but i would disagree and i think anyone

669
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,600
that looks at synchronicities is looking

670
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,280
at patterns and trends in the same way

671
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:37,600
as any scientist is looking for trends

672
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:38,799
in data

673
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:41,840
um and you know just to finish this off

674
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,120
there was a website on the in on the bbc

675
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,440
the following day just updating the

676
00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:49,600
situation in gaza which had seen 65

677
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,440
people killed including 14 children and

678
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,520
seven dead in israel so in a way this

679
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:55,679
was what you might call a sign in that

680
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,520
you know it's kind of bringing attention

681
00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,919
to maybe the people people of the uk

682
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,320
that the situation overseas you know is

683
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,960
obviously not not so great and that you

684
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,240
know there needs to be a connection here

685
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,240
between that kind of sublimated war of

686
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,799
soccer as it were and real conflicts

687
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,159
that should be the focus of active

688
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,320
diplomacy and it could be summarized in

689
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,679
this idea that one of those children

690
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:17,520
dying in the middle east on the banks of

691
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,720
the jordan could have been one of our

692
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:20,159
own in the uk

693
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,760
um now look i know this is a just

694
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,520
interpretation and it's obviously a

695
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,880
tragic event and i want to kind of

696
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,880
finish on a bit of a more positive note

697
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:29,039
but i i think that you know apart from

698
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,480
my own personal experiences and the need

699
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,559
for more openness and pride and openness

700
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:34,080
with people that are having spiritual

701
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,440
experiences

702
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,960
and more adequate representation in the

703
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:38,960
mainstream me i think there would be

704
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,280
something to be gained from thinking

705
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,840
about how we can we can look at these

706
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,919
kind of these global synchronicities and

707
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,600
signs in a bit more detail because again

708
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:49,840
going back to alberto echo

709
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,360
his writing you know even at its most

710
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,880
dreadful so even during the light

711
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:53,919
strikes nature appeared to the

712
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,440
symbolical imagination to be a kind of

713
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,360
alphabet through which god spoke to men

714
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,039
things were signs hope was restored to

715
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,120
the world because uh you know the world

716
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:03,679
was god's discourse to humans um and

717
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,600
with this in mind this is why i was just

718
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,280
thinking you know do other people

719
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,120
experience global scale synchronicity

720
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:10,880
signs and connections in this way and if

721
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:13,039
so would it be worth kind of trying to

722
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,880
investigate these in more detail try to

723
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,520
report them in more detail and even

724
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,840
just having the enthusiasm to do it

725
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,320
might encourage synchronicities to occur

726
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:24,320
as per you know this idea of a

727
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,840
synchronicity of synchronicity as

728
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,600
previous authors have written about you

729
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:29,120
know alan vaughan and gary schwartz have

730
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,080
talked about the fact that if you

731
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,159
actually investigate these things they

732
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,240
actually start to occur

733
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,320
and you know i'll be very very quick

734
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,760
because i know i'm running out of time

735
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:39,679
but even as a result of putting this

736
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,919
presentation together um i've just

737
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,760
noticed a few things that seem to have

738
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,480
happened in correspondence to what i've

739
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:48,400
been doing so for example

740
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,279
um

741
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,200
i i actually put i actually recorded a

742
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:53,200
copy of this presentation with healthy

743
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,640
seminars on the on 5 p.m on the 12th of

744
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,360
12th of july and at 5 p.m while i was

745
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,200
doing this actually electrical storm

746
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:03,279
came in and lauren laurier and mike and

747
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,279
me saying that there was a whole load of

748
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,120
lightning bolts and everything happening

749
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,880
outside now that in itself doesn't mean

750
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,880
much it's just an electrical storm

751
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,799
um but later on i just discovered

752
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,159
actually quite a major electric storm

753
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,559
and it flooded most of the roads and and

754
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,400
you know around here and also some of

755
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,320
the underground stations but more

756
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:21,840
interesting than all of that is that

757
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,679
five past five

758
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,240
um there was actually a lightning strike

759
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:28,799
that took place under a

760
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,600
tree

761
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:31,279
basically a lightning strike hit three

762
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,640
people who were

763
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,880
who were under a tree and they took a

764
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,640
selfie they were taking a selfie of

765
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,240
themselves at the same time as the

766
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,559
lightning strike hit and this image on

767
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,039
the right hand side uh is taken by

768
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:45,120
isabel johnson they they all survived

769
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,559
luckily um

770
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,320
and her two siblings and that is the

771
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,559
photo she actually took at five past

772
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,880
five on the 12th of july as as the

773
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,640
lightning strike

774
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,559
you know as it hit

775
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,640
and interesting enough on the previous

776
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,600
night there was also another set of

777
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,240
people who unfortunately died taking

778
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,559
selfies in india um so there was two

779
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:09,120
events involving people taking selfies

780
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,200
24 hours apart so it starts to get a

781
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,440
little bit interesting and um and just

782
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,520
to finish on a more positive note i

783
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,440
would just like to say that on the 21st

784
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,520
of july was that the day that the spr

785
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,440
library reopened again and i managed to

786
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,039
get back to the library and returned

787
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,640
some books i'd had for over a year

788
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,360
because of coving and i just happened to

789
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,600
notice on display a book called um

790
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,840
changing the flash by elizabeth crone

791
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,760
and jeffrey about an nda

792
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,440
experience following a lightning strike

793
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,880
which i picked up and i've actually just

794
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,559
finished reading it today

795
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,039
but interestingly on the same day and i

796
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,919
didn't know this previously the same day

797
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,840
was that the inquest for the young boy

798
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,360
that was was killed struck by lightning

799
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:49,679
and the coroner stated that that inquest

800
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,000
that it was an extreme extremely rare

801
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,360
occurrence although the weather has

802
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:55,039
changed it changed very quickly and

803
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,720
there appears to be no obvious reason

804
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:58,880
why jordan was struck by lightning

805
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,760
um and so just to try and you know put a

806
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,840
positive spin on all of this i think one

807
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,840
thing that came came out of the book by

808
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,159
uh by by elizabeth crowe and jeffrey

809
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,159
kreiper was that um you know what

810
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,760
elizabeth crone

811
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,400
you know experienced was very much a you

812
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,799
know a positive mde and maybe you know

813
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,480
that that would offer some comfort to

814
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,320
say jordan's family is in terms of where

815
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:22,000
he's gone to so that's that's worth

816
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,919
thinking about as well but just worth

817
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,919
thinking about that all of these signs

818
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,360
obviously have positives and negatives

819
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:29,360
but just thinking about what they

820
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,640
actually mean

821
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,320
um if we can think about the

822
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,880
connectedness between people and events

823
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,440
a bit more that will kind of enhance the

824
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,480
kind of the

825
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:41,039
the the attitude towards holism as

826
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,480
opposed to this kind of highly

827
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,400
individualistic culture that we're

828
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,760
currently immersed in so i i've taken

829
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,000
loads of time so i i will leave it there

830
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,679
thank you very very much for listening i

831
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,240
appreciate uh appreciate your time and

832
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:56,000
if you have any questions i'd love to

833
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,840
hear them thank you very much

834
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:59,760
thank you so much uh christoph you're

835
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,840
just two minutes over and that's just

836
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,799
fine

837
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:03,679
um

838
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:07,679
i really appreciate your very personal

839
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,240
analysis self-analysis if you will and i

840
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,919
think this is really what's what's

841
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,960
needed

842
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,960
and as education chair for the society

843
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,279
for scientific exploration i think the

844
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,840
more that scientists can really dwell

845
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:22,159
into their own

846
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,799
understanding of themselves and

847
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,640
these phenomena is better and i can

848
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:29,279
think of two people iman varus

849
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,080
who

850
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,080
wrote a book about you know his own

851
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:35,039
analysis of his dreams and and things

852
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,240
which were going on with his

853
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,080
publications and things like that he

854
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:41,120
found some really very synchronous

855
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,799
correlations

856
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,799
and also another scientist that comes to

857
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:46,720
mind is herb metz

858
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,679
who

859
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,600
wrote the selection effect and it was

860
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:50,720
himself

861
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,919
struggling

862
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,000
with the random generator and the

863
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:57,279
outcome and so it's a very personal

864
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,320
um

865
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,120
recount as is yours and i think this is

866
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:02,799
great because i think we make the

867
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,679
biggest strides when we when we do this

868
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,080
you know we can't be the observer

869
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:10,320
at this point we have to really be the

870
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:13,919
experiencer to to go deep in it so

871
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:17,200
um again thank you so much and um

872
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,360
so comments we have a dr beth hedwa

873
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,600
yes and in non-western cultures less

874
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,120
materialistic worldviews your

875
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,120
experiences might have been interpreted

876
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,799
quite differently

877
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,760
true

878
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:31,120
um

879
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,320
groff agreed that medication was

880
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,240
counterproductive to the acknowledgement

881
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,720
and development of such experiences

882
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,960
in 1980 while at eslint institute in big

883
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,480
sur california they established a

884
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,039
spiritual emergency network which was

885
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:48,960
designed to help people who were having

886
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,440
these types of unique experiences that

887
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,840
were characterized as non-ordinary

888
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:55,840
states of consciousness with perceptual

889
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,480
variations emotional fluctuation

890
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,200
or psychosomatic symptoms and commonly

891
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,320
defined as psychotic by conventional

892
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,960
psychiatry and i want to mention i i

893
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,679
commend you for not succumbing to to the

894
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,159
drugs because then you're literally

895
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,520
screwed in every way of the word so

896
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,080
absolutely i mean i i've come across the

897
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,039
spiritual crisis network in the uk

898
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,039
and i know the good work that they do

899
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,799
but i would say that it's it is still

900
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,720
very much a marginal organization you

901
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,399
know and i don't think it's taken very

902
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,760
seriously by by the mainstream nhs over

903
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:33,520
here and i'm not sure what the situation

904
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,880
is in the u.s but i i really you know

905
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,200
that there needs to be people that i

906
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,279
mean as everton morality was saying

907
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,120
yesterday in his brilliant talk you know

908
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,039
that there needs to be

909
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,600
people who can understand the nuances of

910
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,520
all of this because i had no idea what

911
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:52,000
was going on in my world view or like i

912
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,600
was a materialist all i could say i mean

913
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:55,840
i had i've never had any thoughts about

914
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,399
god or anything bigger and you know i

915
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,399
only put it down to be a conspiracy that

916
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,080
that was why all these meaningful

917
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:04,080
coincidences were happening but you know

918
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,360
there was no other way of me

919
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,679
interpreting that and i just think

920
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,440
if there was somebody there on the on

921
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:11,120
the front line because at that point

922
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,320
they would it wouldn't have even

923
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,760
occurred to me to look for say a

924
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,760
spiritual crisis network

925
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,520
you know if but if there was someone on

926
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:19,760
the front line that could introduce

927
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,799
these these ideas based on what i was

928
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,720
saying if they could introduce them kind

929
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:26,480
of obviously

930
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:29,679
in a subtle kind of way then then and

931
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:32,240
maybe direct me towards you or whatever

932
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,840
but there has to be a better way of

933
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:35,679
doing it i'm sure it

934
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,279
yeah absolutely absolutely um mark uh

935
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:41,679
mulaga says uh reiki and energetic

936
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:45,039
healer training tap into spikes in world

937
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,919
energy when events are happening they

938
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,000
contend they feel ripples in the world

939
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,600
energy

940
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,320
and then ramses de leon said there's

941
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,159
also a spiritual emergency scale

942
00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:58,399
developed by goretzky

943
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,480
thalbourne and storm in 2009.

944
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,360
uh dava nars i think a large part of the

945
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,919
site talent stems from complex and maybe

946
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,559
abstract implicit pattern recognition

947
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,120
and open the door to precognition

948
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,360
i agree the cascading synchronicities

949
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,760
are crazy making and sound irrational to

950
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,840
mainstream medical types

951
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:21,919
is there a particular sector where you

952
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,320
think you may exercise and fine line

953
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:25,519
your gifts

954
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,440
rv mediumship forecasting healing etc i

955
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,039
think it's actually therapeutic and

956
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,279
edifying when you can apply these

957
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,440
abilities thank you for your sharing

958
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,640
your experience so openly

959
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:41,120
yeah i mean i i'd you know i'd love to

960
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,480
be able to

961
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:44,480
i mean you're part of being part of me

962
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:45,919
being here at this conference to be

963
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,840
honest is i suppose just

964
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,440
you know working part of working through

965
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,519
the process i mean what i find quite

966
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:53,200
interesting about all of these talks

967
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,840
here is that they're absolutely you know

968
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:57,760
spot-on in so many ways but this is

969
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,679
still you know it's

970
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:01,120
yeah we are still unfortunately very

971
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,720
much in a marginal environment here

972
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,840
aren't we you know

973
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:05,760
you go out onto the streets and most

974
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,240
people you don't accept any of this

975
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,880
stuff and and there's got to be a way to

976
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,399
try and kind of

977
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,240
try and make it more mainstream i mean

978
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,640
you know and even when even when they do

979
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:19,440
accept it you know they won't talk about

980
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,720
it because they won't talk about their

981
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,240
experiences because because of these

982
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,320
these taboos and whether that comes down

983
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,320
from you know people in

984
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,039
positions of scientific authority

985
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,880
essentially kind of dismissing this

986
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:32,559
stuff sometimes even unconsciously you

987
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:33,279
know

988
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,640
through them through the media or

989
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:36,960
whatever but you know it

990
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,120
i i'm not saying going back to the just

991
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,200
go back to the medieval period but i do

992
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,440
think that there are aspects of

993
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,880
of the of the medieval period and

994
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,440
certainly um you know say home together

995
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,960
cultures today that the people who are

996
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:50,640
in who are a lot more in touch with

997
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,840
nature and and can see these things and

998
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,600
incorporate them within their lives and

999
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,200
you know you have shamans and what have

1000
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,559
you um

1001
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:01,679
and surely there's got to be a a way of

1002
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:03,679
of making this stuff more mainstream in

1003
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,640
the western world as well

1004
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:08,080
yes we we have a

1005
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,240
chris connolly i found it interesting

1006
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,679
that you initially perceived your

1007
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,279
experiences from the perspective of

1008
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,559
paranoia

1009
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,640
whereas individuals with a religious

1010
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:18,480
perspective may simply accept these

1011
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:19,919
experiences

1012
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:24,720
you perceive such experience and perhaps

1013
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:27,279
life in general

1014
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,240
oh

1015
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,480
absolutely and i think that's a really

1016
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,880
interesting question because

1017
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,640
again watching everton rowdy's talk

1018
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:36,559
yesterday kind of bears on this a little

1019
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,919
bit because he was talking about the

1020
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,120
fact that

1021
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,760
if you come from a religious background

1022
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,159
and have these anonymous experiences or

1023
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,240
you come from a particular spiritual

1024
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:47,600
church in brazil and have these

1025
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,039
anomalous experiences you have people

1026
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,120
that can kind of help you through and

1027
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,279
one question i wanted to ask um everton

1028
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:55,600
which i didn't have a chance to was how

1029
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,559
would you

1030
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,640
adapt that approach to somebody who's

1031
00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:00,159
literally having a flipping worldview

1032
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,120
because

1033
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,880
i didn't have that that religious

1034
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,799
background at all so it made no sense to

1035
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,600
me and it only started to make sense

1036
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:08,639
after

1037
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:13,760
young b having that kind of spiritual

1038
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,839
bent as it were you know it started to

1039
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,520
make sense to me and it was actually a

1040
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,240
relief because i for once i didn't feel

1041
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,000
like the whole world was against me you

1042
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:23,679
know um

1043
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:24,720
so

1044
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:28,879
would perhaps be if i'd come from a

1045
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,320
religious background it would make a lot

1046
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:32,480
more sense because i would i would have

1047
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,240
the idea that there are things out there

1048
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,679
that some

1049
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,599
that that you know that can generate

1050
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,280
these these anonymous experiences but i

1051
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,359
have to say i i came from you know

1052
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,320
my family were very kind of um atheist i

1053
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:47,280
suppose and and then after that i i went

1054
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:48,960
to university and studied you know a

1055
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,960
science subject so you couldn't get much

1056
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,960
more kind of materialist in a way and i

1057
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,040
have i had nothing to

1058
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,800
to to basically

1059
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,880
um

1060
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:00,800
understand this at all no way of

1061
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:03,119
understanding it and and yes so i

1062
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:04,480
absolutely agree with the question i

1063
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,800
think you know if i had that religious

1064
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,400
background it would have helped a lot

1065
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:09,839
actually yeah no that was a very

1066
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,160
brilliant question um margaret moga

1067
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:13,920
asked can you pick up other people's

1068
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:16,720
thoughts as well

1069
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:19,280
do i pick up other people's thoughts yes

1070
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,800
i i don't i never feel like i'm direct

1071
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,240
i'm directly picking up people's

1072
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:27,280
thoughts i i i think the way i describe

1073
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:28,880
it is it's just

1074
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:31,839
it's all unconscious i i feel you know

1075
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,320
i feel this is why i i'm a you know i'm

1076
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,920
not a great believer in free will is

1077
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,839
that what seems to happen is that i keep

1078
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,880
like you know as with all

1079
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:40,640
synchronicities i keep bumping into

1080
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:41,599
things

1081
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:43,119
you know that have meaning and it

1082
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,640
happens all the time i have so much

1083
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,079
patterning in my life it's not what i'm

1084
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,680
actually

1085
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,920
picking up thoughts of people or

1086
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,839
um

1087
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,680
but i do kind of maybe i'll think about

1088
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:55,760
something and then something will happen

1089
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:58,000
shortly afterwards which will happen

1090
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,119
which will make that meaningful

1091
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,440
coincidence and it it feels like uh you

1092
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,520
know i'm a little bit of a meat puppet

1093
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:05,520
kind of being directed around which i

1094
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,560
don't mind that much but um

1095
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,160
this is what has kind of driven me to

1096
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:12,160
this point where i think it would be

1097
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,599
interesting to learn this a bit more

1098
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,280
because i have felt to be honest for

1099
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,200
years and years i've kind of been on my

1100
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:19,440
own with a lot of this and that's partly

1101
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,599
because of my background

1102
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,280
partly because i haven't found the right

1103
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:25,200
people who have experienced similar

1104
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,720
things um but you know but i'm generally

1105
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,480
i might my background is quite

1106
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,880
mainstream i'm quite a mainstream person

1107
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:34,960
you know so i would love to see this

1108
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,920
stuff more in the mainstream so that

1109
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,560
so that you know more people can so i

1110
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,240
can find more people who experience it

1111
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,760
and so that other people in similar

1112
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,400
situations would be able to find

1113
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:48,240
similar people who have had similar

1114
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,440
experiences i think that would be very

1115
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,640
very important

1116
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,560
yeah and definitely and not to suffer as

1117
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,880
much to have to go through you know the

1118
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:57,520
whole hospital thing and everything uh

1119
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,839
this will be our final question and i

1120
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,079
recommend uh christoph if there's a lot

1121
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,079
of nice comments in the chat if you want

1122
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:06,079
to save the chat you might want to do

1123
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,440
that now

1124
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,440
um so you could read them later but the

1125
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:12,000
final question is from stephen hall are

1126
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,000
we in a matrix what do you think about

1127
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:16,480
the rattle knots and the app that guides

1128
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,280
their

1129
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,839
anomalous adventures

1130
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,760
yeah i mean as far as that's concerned

1131
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,839
that is that is totally what i believe i

1132
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:25,680
basically believe that we're in we're in

1133
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,920
basically a a kind of a computer program

1134
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,000
and that that everything is is kind of

1135
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,920
super determined and and for me that

1136
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:34,000
that's not a problem i think

1137
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,680
so some people have a real kind of um

1138
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,920
a real need for free will but i i don't

1139
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:42,560
i don't think that this i think that

1140
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,079
you know living in a deterministic

1141
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,000
universe is not necessarily a bad thing

1142
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,680
it has it makes

1143
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:49,680
it has the the potential to kind of like

1144
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,960
soften the retro retributive impulse and

1145
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,800
um make people feel a bit less

1146
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,240
self-conscious

1147
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:58,400
it's more playful um less likely to bite

1148
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,839
themselves because everything was

1149
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,359
supposed to happen in the way it was

1150
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:02,480
supposed to happen and we obviously

1151
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,359
still learn from experiences but but but

1152
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,040
once those things have happened you can

1153
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,640
kind of move on and it's very much the

1154
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,800
idea of being here now or the power of

1155
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,640
now you know because you just think well

1156
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:14,720
i'm in this computer program i am into

1157
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,920
matrix

1158
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,160
um and it was supposed to happen in that

1159
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,839
way and it's actually quite a release

1160
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,599
then because you don't have to

1161
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:23,680
you don't have to worry too much about

1162
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,640
blame or pride or or whatever so i think

1163
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,880
it's actually quite quite um

1164
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:29,680
um

1165
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,599
yeah quite quite a liberating idea to to

1166
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:35,359
to believe in determinism rather than

1167
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,640
free will but obviously other people

1168
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,720
have a lot of other ideas so

1169
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,960
well thank you so much christa it was a

1170
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,280
absolutely a fabulous presentation with